Asymptomatic course of ARVI. Causes of fever without signs of a cold

Our medical illiteracy becomes the key to serious complications from acute respiratory diseases. Many people do not know that the flu without a runny nose and cough is a threat, but there are still signs that can help determine the development of a serious infection.

Sometimes the flu is accompanied only by a fever, but without a cough or runny nose

People are often at a loss when determining the signs of illness. Sometimes the flu is confused with ordinary fatigue and loss of strength. ARVI, unlike a cold, can begin with symptoms such as weakness, pain in muscles and joints, and sore throat. The first stage is also characterized by dizziness, headache; flu without a runny nose is a threat. While a person believes that it is just fatigue, the virus rapidly multiplies and spreads throughout the body. The absence of fever indicates that the immune system has not yet recognized the infection or is simply unable to fight it. Doctors characterize this condition as atypical. To know what measures to take, you need to familiarize yourself in detail with what the flu is and identify the symptoms.

There are several types of the virus - A, B and C. The first type affects not only people, but also animals, while B and C pose a threat only to the human body. Once in the body, affecting the cell, the infection rapidly multiplies and intoxication occurs, and fever occurs.

Antigenic polymorphism, that is, mutation, allows the infection to spread at tremendous speed, affecting millions of people. This is the reason for seasonal epidemics and the impossibility of creating a single vaccine; researchers have to create more and more new types of vaccinations. The infection has no borders and leads to epidemics in many countries. Every year more than 5 million people get sick, and at least 250 thousand people die. During the summer months, the disease is practically not registered; it is known that the virus dies when exposed to direct sunlight.

In summer people rarely get the flu because sun rays kill the virus

Is there a flu without a cough and runny nose?

The main attribute of ARVI is headache, dizziness, high temperature. Breathing becomes difficult, only on the 2nd or 3rd day does a dry cough and runny nose appear, which indicates the acute phase of the disease. If there is no fever, then you have caught an atypical strain, which requires special treatment methods. To distinguish the flu from a cold, it is necessary to recognize the main signs of the second, which appear from the first moments of the disease:

  • runny nose, nasal congestion;
  • cough, heavy breathing;
  • loss of appetite, chills.

With a cold, symptoms such as fever and headache appear after a few days. We distinguish the flu by symptoms

Medical organizations record more than 100 types of ARVI and colds, differing in symptoms.

Atypical influenza

This disease does not have specific signs, characteristic of the common flu or cold. Atypical appearance develops without the usual symptoms, the temperature may not even rise. This is very serious illness, which is difficult to treat, leading to complications, often fatal.

  1. High temperature is observed in 75% of cases, while 25% have no symptoms. Main sign- severe headache.
  2. If there are no symptoms, but everyone around you is sick, it makes sense to get tested. Perhaps a person has a strong immune system or is a carrier of the virus and can infect others. The identified virus requires adequate treatment, but the drugs are aimed only at the infection. Missing the moment can provoke atypical pneumonia, meningitis, renal, liver failure, joint diseases, etc. The consequences of this type of flu can be unpredictable.

There are two subtypes of the disease: afebrile and acatarrhal. The first is flu without cough and runny nose, just fever, the second without fever and fever. Both subspecies can occur in both mild and complex forms.

The most dangerous symptom is lightning speed

An atypical manifestation in the form of a rapid disease is the most dangerous and severe. The condition is characterized by a sharp rise in temperature, weakness, nausea, vomiting, severe headache, and convulsions. If the disease is not treated on time, irreversible, severe processes in the nervous and vascular systems, in the work of the heart. The disease can take a person's life in a matter of hours. Flu without cough, no snot, painful condition, but the body temperature rises sharply - this means that ARVI is present. At the same time, joints and muscles ache, as in cases with a common cold or pneumonia.

Flu fever can rise at lightning speed

As for a disease that does not have any symptoms, get ready to receive an answer to the question “Is there a flu without a runny nose” - you have been overcome by an insidious illness. The problem indicates a weak immune system, the body has practically no defenses, and the virus eats healthy cells with great speed. Powerful intoxication occurs, the temperature rises, the person is afraid of light, sharp sounds bring discomfort. Even if measures are taken in time, then on the second or third day a cough, runny nose occurs, breathing becomes difficult, pneumonia, sinusitis, and sinusitis are possible.

Aktaral subspecies

The type is also called acute tracheitis; it affects the mucous membranes of the mouth, nasopharynx, and trachea with viruses. As a result, severe intoxication occurs, often accompanied by rashes on the arms, stomach, forearm, and coating on the tongue. Treatment requires the intervention of antibiotics, taking sorbents - Enterosgel, Atoxil, etc. With this form, it is important to drink plenty of fluids, preferably clean water.

Can the flu occur only with a fever - yes, but other symptoms appear after a few days. The course of the disease will be complex, difficult to treat, and may develop into pneumonia or other serious diseases.

There is no cold without a runny nose and cough. Without fail, a person feels a sore throat, redness, and the temperature may rise in a few days if the condition is not treated.

Children and the elderly are the main victims

As already indicated, at risk serious complications includes small children and elderly people; the former have not yet developed immunity and do not have the amount of antibodies to fight the virus. The latter no longer have antigens to infection in their blood. Whatever the subtype of the disease - flu without cough and snot or with pronounced symptoms, in the baby in any case it is acute. A sharp rise in temperature is possible, children often experience convulsions, older ones suffer from headaches, pain in muscles and joints. The child loses his appetite, feels nauseous, and vomits. Characteristic features are also:

  • redness of the eyes;
  • red neck;
  • redness of the cheeks;
  • hoarseness;
  • dry cough;
  • loss of smell.

It is easy to determine that a child has a cold based on the first symptoms.

Symptoms such as repeated vomiting, loss of consciousness, a bright red rash on any part of the body, convulsions, refusal of water or any other liquid should cause alarm in parents. And if the baby has congenital pathologies of the heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, then even the mildest form of influenza can lead to serious complications.

Little ones who do not yet know how to express their opinions or complain about their condition should arouse suspicion among their parents if they have the following symptoms:

  • retracted chest;
  • cyanosis of lips, nasal triangle;
  • drowsiness or restlessness;
  • rapid breathing;
  • temperature above 38 degrees.

If at least one of the listed symptoms is confirmed, most likely the baby is progressing to pneumonia. A rash has appeared on the baby’s body - there is a risk that he has meningitis. In any case, as soon as the child develops the first symptoms, there is not a minute to lose. Often life is counted not by hours, but by minutes.

If your child has flu symptoms, call the doctor!

Preventive measures

So that no infectious disease or a cold without a cough, without high temperatures has not overcome the human body, it is necessary to follow simple and basic rules.

  1. As soon as an epidemic begins, go around crowded places, in as a last resort, wear a cotton-gauze bandage and a medical mask.
  2. At the first signs of illness - malaise, fatigue, take sick leave, lie down, or even better, consult a doctor for adequate treatment.
  3. Ventilate the room, bedroom, especially for those who are prone to colds. Additional disinfection of rooms, sanitary facilities, and dishes will not be superfluous.
  4. Do not contact a sick person.
  5. At high temperatures it is recommended drinking plenty of fluids: water, milk, juices, decoctions, tea with lemon, raspberries, honey.
  6. Do not lower your readings up to a temperature of 38 degrees; the body is fighting a viral infection. Taking antipyretics will reduce the level of antiviral cells.
  7. At profuse sweating replenish the water supply in the body, drink herbal teas and decoctions.
  8. As a preventive measure for influenza small child, it makes sense to use interferon-based suppositories. The drug is absolutely harmless to the body not only of a baby, but also of a pregnant woman and the elderly. The medicine boosts immunity and protects against viruses. But treatment requires a preliminary examination by a doctor and his instructions.

Don't forget to strengthen your immune system!

Strengthen your immune system before the cold season arrives. Engage in active sports and include them in your diet healthy eating- greens, fruits, vegetables, berries, nuts. Take vitamin complexes only as prescribed by a doctor. Great value for protective forces has hardening. Starting from contrast shower, you need to switch to dousing with cold water. The procedure cannot be performed if the body has already contracted the virus; hardening should begin in the warm season.

28-03-2009, 12:18

28-03-2009, 12:24

We recently had an acute respiratory viral infection with a fever, without a runny nose or cough.
Get well!@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

MomGoshi

28-03-2009, 12:28

We had a temp of up to 38.2, we knocked it down with a vibrocol, the local police officer came and told us to install Viferon, now everything is fine (TTT). Try calling hotline diaper or libero - pediatricians advise there if you don’t call doctors yet (I once called just in case, from the 21st century, to be on the safe side). Ears are, of course, no joke... And an ENT specialist can come to your home...

28-03-2009, 12:35

My daughter is sick, I am very worried. The temp increased last night. 38.3 since then, for more than a day now, temp. rises, we shoot it down with efferalgun. Of course, she called the doctor right away. She, without even looking at the child, said, “Well, there will probably be a red throat right now. It’s SARS. It’s an epidemic now.” Then she glanced casually at the bottle, injected analgin + pipolfen (why the second, and I don’t understand the first either!), saying that to lower the temperature, because She has nothing else anyway. She left instructions for treatment (for ARVI), said that a runny nose and cough would appear, and left.

It's been a day already. I’m sitting waiting for the doctor on duty, who is supposed to come today. But there are no snot, cough, or other symptoms of ARVI. Only tempo. rises: (In the morning it reached 39.1.

And what also worries me greatly in this whole situation is that the child has been fiddling with his ears for several days now (even sleeping with his hands near his ears), but neither the local police officer (who saw us the day before yesterday, still healthy) nor the emergency doctor (yesterday) take this symptom into account . The district police officer said that the child was so nervous (in his sleep???), the emergency doctor said that there was a traffic jam...

I am very afraid for my baby. After hearing enough stories about inattentive doctors, I'm on the verge of panic :(
ARVI can occur without other symptoms.

28-03-2009, 12:40

We also had a fever on Wednesday and Thursday, no runny nose and no cough. The doctor said it was a virus or teeth. prescribed Viferon.. the urine was returned and it was good. Yesterday there was no pace, but the child sometimes screams so loudly, arching ((. in the evening a small rash appeared. The doctor said it was an enterococcal infection (I don’t know if it’s correct) for some reason she prescribed Suprasin.

28-03-2009, 12:51

mine always gets sick like this: only t. sometimes red throat. All. there is nothing more.

28-03-2009, 13:09

Well, you calmed me down a little... For me, ARVI means snot and cough. And then there's the tempo. and that’s all, so I got scared.

Mine always gets sick like this: only t. sometimes red throat. All. there is nothing more.
And as for the ears, of course we need to rule out the possibility of otitis media and the like, but somewhere around your age mine also started fiddling with them. At first we were worried, then we realized that there was nothing wrong. It's just tugging. I remember an ENT specialist once told me that the first sign of otitis media is that the child refuses to eat, because... painful to swallow.

Mine seems to be eating somehow. No appetite, of course. But she doesn't cry.

But he doesn’t drink:(, only from the breast. Usually he drinks well, but yesterday and today, as luck would have it, as soon as he sees the sippy cup, he waves his hands and cries. There is no way to pour in liquid from a spoon or a straw. :(

28-03-2009, 13:13

ARVI can occur without other symptoms.
On day 4-5, if the temperature persists (with or without runny nose, cough, etc.), you must take a general analysis blood and urine.
If there is reason to suspect otitis, the child must be examined by an ENT specialist (otoscopy)

Thanks for the information!
And by what symptoms can I assume possible otitis media?

28-03-2009, 13:27

if the ears hurt, the child will not let you touch them; even a light touch to the tubercle above the earlobe can cause crying

28-03-2009, 13:32

We also only had a fever for 4 days... the temperature subsided, snot and cough began...

28-03-2009, 13:37

We have a fever and the doctor prescribed us antibiotics:005:

28-03-2009, 13:44

28-03-2009, 13:52

We have been sick for the second day. Temp is 39.3. Can’t get it down... The doctor also says ARVI! No cough or runny nose!

What was prescribed for you? Some kind of tablets? The doctor told me that since there are no external signs, the bacteria can appear anywhere and in any way: pneumonia, disease urinary system.. She told me not to take risks and take antibiotics.

28-03-2009, 13:53

I couldn’t bring down my temperature for a day.

28-03-2009, 14:07


28-03-2009, 14:09

What was prescribed for you? Some kind of tablets? The doctor told me that since there are no outward signs, the bacteria can appear anywhere and in any way: pneumonia, a disease of the urinary system... She told me not to take risks and take antibiotics.

I couldn’t bring down my temperature for a day.
The doctor is wrong. A viral disease can occur in the same way, the cause of which antibiotics have no effect on.

Topicstarter about otitis: http://www.forums.rusmedserv.com/showthread.php?t=51819&highlight=%EE%F2%E8%F2%2A+%F1%F0%E5%E4%ED%2A+%ED%E 0%F0%F3%E6%ED%2A+%EB%E5%F7%E5%ED%2A In addition, symptoms: pain that increases with pressure, anxiety, refusal to suck (pacifiers, bottles, breasts), etc.

28-03-2009, 14:11

This happened to us recently. Temp 38+ for several days. Pediatrician - “Viferon and slow down the pace, don’t bother, you have viiirus.” A respiratory signs still no. Pediatrician - “Well, let’s donate urine.” They donated urine, plus I also donated blood on my own.
The diagnosis is acute pyelonephritis.
Such things. If they hadn’t taken the tests, they would have treated the mysterious virus with Viferon:001:
This is why on the 4th-5th day, if the temperature persists (with or without a runny nose, cough, etc.), you need to take a general blood and urine test.

28-03-2009, 14:46

28-03-2009, 19:25

Topicstarter about otitis: http://www.forums.rusmedserv.com/showthread.php?t=51819&highlight=%EE%F2%E8%F2%2A+%F1%F0%E5%E4%ED%2A+%ED%E 0%F0%F3%E6%ED%2A+%EB%E5%F7%E5%ED%2A In addition, symptoms: pain that increases with pressure, anxiety, refusal to suck (pacifiers, bottles, breasts), etc.

Thank you!

28-03-2009, 19:27

We were prescribed Viferon and Eferalgan (or Nurofen), Eferalgan did not help. Today I gave Nurofen (syrup), Now the temp is 37.8! We are playing little by little... And yesterday I was in bed all day...

And we take Viferon and Efferalgan. us ef. helps (t-t-t)

Many young parents of small children are very worried when the child has a fever without a cough or runny nose, as well as without other symptoms. obvious symptoms a certain disease. Mostly, the worries turn out to be groundless, but there are times when such a condition indicates that the baby is sick with something serious.

Most often, the temperature rises without any symptoms in infants and children under three years of age, because thermoregulation in the body is not yet fully established, which simply leads to “overheating.”

What to do when the temperature rises?

First of all, mom and dad should take a good look at the general condition of the child to find out whether he has any manifestations of any disease. It is clear that if, when the temperature rises, there are problems with stool, nausea, or sore throat, then this is a sign of an acute respiratory infection or disorder gastrointestinal tract. Under such circumstances, you should immediately visit a pediatrician to consult and clarify the diagnosis. But often parents come to doctors whose children, in addition to high body temperature, do not have any other symptoms.

Diseases in which there is a high temperature without a runny nose or cough:

  1. Childhood infections: scarlet fever, measles, chickenpox. The fever is accompanied by skin rashes.
  2. Inflammation of the larynx with diphtheria, sore throat.
  3. Enlarged lymph nodes.
  4. Diseases of the nervous system, such as meningitis or encephalitis.

You should consult a doctor if the temperature lasts more than 5 days, or if antipyretics do not help.

An ambulance is simply necessary if the child feels very unwell. If you can do without a doctor, then you need to take antipyretic drugs that can improve general condition child, which allows him to have a good night's rest. This is a necessary condition to restore the body’s strength and direct it to fight the disease. Therefore, it is recommended to reduce fever, which is not accompanied by a cough and runny nose. It is advisable to do this before bed and before meals. An antipyretic for a child should be paracetamol-based, or you can use Ibuprofen.

For what reasons can a baby develop a fever?

The first reason for the increase in temperature may be congenital pathology heart (vice). In this case, the increase or decrease in temperature is influenced by changes in climatic conditions or stressful situations. If a child has problems with the cardiovascular system, then he should be hardened from infancy and adapted to environment to avoid many health problems. For this reason, the temperature immediately jumps up sharply. And then it drops to 37 degrees and remains like that for a very long time. Parents should immediately contact a doctor to know what to do.

Most often, the temperature in young children rises due to overheating in the sun. Children are dressed very tightly to avoid colds, and they are very hot in all these clothes. A lack of fluid in the body leads to metabolic disorders and increased body temperature. Therefore, parents should know that in hot weather the child should receive sufficient quantity water, do not be warmly dressed and do not be in the open sun. And if overheating does occur, then the baby must be taken to a cool place and given some water to drink.

The cause of an increase in temperature may be an inflammatory process in the body. For example, when a wound on the skin or on internal organs. These affected areas release pyrogen, which can cause fever.

Children with an unstable nervous system may react to a raised voice, other irritants and unpleasant factors with a feverish state. In this case, parents should create for their child specific mode life, which will not overload the psyche.

Another common cause of a fever without symptoms is an allergic reaction to something. To eliminate this problem, it is enough to find out the allergen and remove it from the child.

A natural reaction of a baby’s body to some vaccines, as well as to low-quality medications, is an elevated temperature. This condition lasts for 3 days.

A mother should always carefully and carefully study the instructions for using medications and monitor their expiration dates so as not to poison the baby or cause allergies.

Fever may also occur after prolonged physical activity baby. After all, he constantly runs, jumps, sweats and does not sit still for a minute. This is the reason that body temperature can rise no higher than 37.5 degrees. But as soon as he rests, this condition goes away. So this is not a cause for concern.

In infants, fever may be a consequence of teething. Parents immediately notice that the gums are red and swollen, and the baby is acting capricious. There is no need to worry about this, you just need to be patient and wait until the teeth appear.

Very often, an increase in temperature is a consequence of a cold. The child’s immunity after illness is greatly weakened, and the temperature can remain high long time. To help the body cope with the consequences of ARVI, you need to supplement it with a vitamin complex, which has a general strengthening effect on the body.

The cause of fever may be kidney disease.

The general picture looks something like this: for a very long time the thermometer shows 37 degrees and no more, but then the temperature rises sharply to 39. In this case, it would be better to undergo an ultrasound examination.

Is it worth lowering the temperature?

All doctors are categorically against lowering a child’s body temperature, which does not exceed 38.5 degrees (and in adults too). This type of fever is considered a normal reaction. child's body to a disease when the immune system comes to fight the germs and bacteria that cause the disease. Parents should simply create comfortable and the right conditions For speedy recovery baby: give a lot of warm drinks, ventilate the room, regularly do wet cleaning, create optimal humidity in the rooms, give only light and healthy food. But some pediatricians still advise reducing the fever, which is below 38.5 degrees, if the child is not feeling well.

Many parents still use their grandmother's old recipes against fever. This is usually rubbing the body with water and vinegar. Medicine neither confirms nor denies the effectiveness of this treatment method. You just have to remember that if the fever does not go away for more than three days, then this is a sign of illness and you need to start a course of antibiotics.

Under no circumstances should you apply mustard plasters, compresses with alcohol, steam your feet, or perform inhalations. This will only increase the temperature. You should not overdress and cover your baby so as not to interfere with the natural process of sweating, which helps lower body temperature.

It must be remembered that fever in children without cold symptoms is quite a common occurrence, which should not cause panic reactions in parents. You don’t have to go to the doctor, but monitor at home. You should go to the hospital only in rare cases when an increase in body temperature in a child can be dangerous to health and life.

But no one will blame caring parents who, when the temperature rises without a cough or runny nose, go to the doctor to get tested and make sure that their child is not sick with anything serious.

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Despite the fact that the art of healing has long become medicine, that is, a system of scientific knowledge and practical methods for identifying and treating human diseases, we still call the viral infectious disease of the upper respiratory tract by the everyday word “cold.” And a cold without fever is also a viral disease. In this case, of all the organs of the upper respiratory tract, the nose and pharynx are primarily affected.

Causes of a cold without fever: the virus is to blame for everything

Without delving into the medical jungle, we can say that of the two hundred strains of viruses involved in the occurrence of colds, the most active are rhinoviruses from the picornavirus family. Once entering the human body, rhinoviruses multiply in the cells of the mucous membrane of the nasopharynx, which leads to inflammatory diseases upper respiratory tract - nasopharyngitis, rhinopharyngitis, acute runny nose or, as we say, a cold. Why does this happen most often during the cold season? Because some of the viruses that cause colds are seasonal. But the reason for their seasonality has not yet been clarified...

In addition, experts have two more versions on this matter. Some believe that the causes of the development of colds, including the causes of colds without fever, are purely physiological. Under the influence of cold air, the blood supply to the mucous membrane of the respiratory tract changes, this leads to a reduction in mucus production, and at this moment the viruses that have entered the respiratory tract begin to multiply intensively.

According to the second point of view, in the cold the human body experiences stress, to which the immune system responds by reducing its protective functions. And a cold without fever (if you stick to this version) is an indicator strong immunity, which fights off the infection without the participation of the hypothalamus, which is responsible for the thermoregulation of our body and “gives the command” to start producing protective antibodies.

However, many studies have been conducted that give grounds to assert that the body’s increased susceptibility to infection during hypothermia is nothing more than a myth...

Since colds are caused by a virus, they can be infected. The most common route of transmission is airborne droplets, as well as direct contact when a person touches the source of infection.

Symptoms of a cold without fever

On average incubation period colds without fever do not exceed two to three days. From unpleasant sensations in the nose and throat it comes to sneezing and runny nose. According to doctors, up to 40% of people with a cold experience a sore throat during a cold, approximately 60% of people complain of a cough, the presence of a runny nose reaches almost 100%, but the temperature in adult patients, as a rule, remains within the normal range.

At first, the main symptom of a cold without fever is heavy watery discharge from the nose. After a day or two they become thicker and acquire a mucopurulent character. A cough is accompanied by a runny nose - first dry, and then with a small amount sputum.

In the absence of bacterial complications (in the form of sinusitis or otitis), after 5-7 days the symptoms of a cold without fever disappear. True, a cough can last much longer (up to two weeks) and often leads to bronchitis, laryngitis or tracheitis.

A cold during pregnancy without fever (when it is caused by a rhinovirus) has similar symptoms. The same symptoms accompany a cold in a child without fever, but most often the body temperature in children still rises, especially in very young ones. Their body is still developing, so the immune system’s reaction is heightened. For this reason, any cough, like physiological function cleaning the respiratory tract requires finding out the cause - so as not to miss the same pharyngitis, laryngitis or bronchitis.

In most cases, diagnosis of a cold without fever is based on clinical manifestations does not present any illness or difficulty.

Treatment of colds without fever

The symptoms and treatment of colds were described as early as the 16th century BC - in the medical papyrus of Ebers, “The Book of Preparation of Medicines for All Parts of the Body.” But there is still no cure for the common cold, and we treat—or rather, alleviate—only its symptoms.

At the same time, we must not forget that antibiotics cannot be taken for a cold, since they do not act on the viruses that cause this disease.

Treatment of colds without fever is recommended using folk remedies proven by many generations, which are now called alternative methods. So, when the first cold symptoms appear, you need to make a hot foot bath(with the addition of dry mustard) or rub your feet with vodka or turpentine ointment and put on warm socks. In the treatment of colds during pregnancy without fever, the use of thermal procedures is strictly prohibited: only a warm scarf around the neck and woolen socks on the feet.

But tea with lemon and honey, as well as ginger, is useful for absolutely everyone. Inhalation infusions help with redness of the throat and cough pine buds, sage, eucalyptus leaves, solution baking soda, mineral alkaline water of the Borjomi type. It is better to do them twice a day - in the morning (an hour before leaving the house) and in the evening - an hour and a half before bedtime.

To get rid of cough positive effect gives a warm drink - a decoction of rose hips, infusions of thyme, lemon balm, coltsfoot leaves, elecampane roots, as well as warm milk half and half with alkaline mineral water, and at night - warm milk with honey and butter. Please note that hot milk will inhibit sputum production. You need to drink slowly, in small sips.

If you have a sore throat, you cannot do without rinsing in the treatment of a cold without fever. There are a great many of their recipes, but the most effective are: a solution of salt + soda + iodine, an infusion of chamomile or sage, as well as solutions of natural apple cider vinegar(a tablespoon per 150 ml of water), furatsilin and hydrogen peroxide (1-2 teaspoons per glass of water). You need to gargle as often as possible - at least 5-6 times a day.

An irritated and sore throat is often a consequence of a strong cough, and coughing attacks occur more frequently as a result. Regular gargling with a warm solution helps to get rid of this problem. table salt: 0.5 teaspoon per 200 ml of water.

Relieves sore throat by ingesting a mixture prepared from 100 g of natural honey and the juice of one lemon. This natural medicine should be taken two teaspoons several times a day. And drops will help cure a runny nose homemade- fresh carrot juice with honey, raw beet juice: 5-6 drops in each nostril 4 times a day. You can apply a little “Star” balm to the bridge of your nose several times a day and do acupressure in the area of ​​the wings of the nose and at the highest point of the nose - between the eyebrows.

Since treatment of colds during pregnancy without fever eliminates the use of pharmaceuticals as much as possible and involves symptomatic therapy folk remedies, then all the above methods are completely safe for expectant mothers.

Preparations for the treatment of colds without fever

IN drug treatment For colds without fever, medications for cough, runny nose and sore throat are used. Classic mixtures - marshmallow syrup and pertussin - are considered good expectorants. Pertussin refers to combination drugs plant origin(it is based on thyme or thyme extract), it has an expectorant effect, helps thin mucus and accelerates its elimination. Adults need to take the mixture one tablespoon three times a day, children – one teaspoon or dessert spoon.

Tusuprex and mucaltin tablets are also considered classics in the treatment of colds. Tusuprex has an antitussive and mild expectorant effect. The daily dose for adults is one tablet (0.02 g) 3-4 times a day, for children under one year of age - a quarter of a tablet, and over a year old- half a tablet 3-4 times a day. Possible side effect- digestive disorders. This medicine is contraindicated in bronchospastic conditions (narrowing of the lumen of the bronchi) and bronchitis with difficulty expectorating sputum.

Mucaltin acts as a sputum thinner and expectorant due to the content of marshmallow extract. Adults need to take 1 tablet 4 times a day, children from one to three years old - 0.5 tablets 3-4 times a day (you can dissolve a tablet in 70-80 ml warm water). Among the contraindications of mucaltin are hypersensitivity to the components of the drug, as well as peptic ulcer stomach and duodenum.

For a severe dry cough during a cold without fever, the doctor may prescribe medications that block the cough reflex - glaucine and oxeladine. Glaucine is available in the form of dragees, syrup (including syrup for children) and tablets, and is prescribed for adults - 40 mg 2-3 times a day, for children under 4 years old - 10 mg 2-3 times a day (after food). The drug is contraindicated in severe arterial hypotension and myocardial infarction. Possible side effects include dizziness, weakness and nausea.

Bromhexine, lazolvan, ambroxol, and acetylcysteine ​​(ACC) are used to liquefy and facilitate coughing up sputum. For example, the drug bromhexine (tablets, dragees, drops, syrup) is taken by adults and children over 14 years of age at 8-16 mg 3-4 times a day. Dosage for children under 2 years of age - 2 mg 3 times a day, for children aged 2 to 6 years - 4 mg, for children aged 6-10 years - 6-8 mg three times a day. Duration of treatment - no more than 4-5 days. Among the contraindications this drug increased sensitivity, peptic ulcer in the acute stage, pregnancy (especially the first trimester) and breastfeeding.

Among the cough medications that doctors most often prescribe for the treatment of colds without fever in children are Gedelix, Prospan, Tussamag, Travisil and Eucabal syrups.

Treating a cold without fever involves getting rid of a runny nose. Trusted drops for a runny nose - naphthyzin, sanorin, galazolin. And in the treatment of rhinitis in children, drops of Nazivin (for babies from birth to one year), Nazol Baby (for children over 1 year), Xymelin (0.05% - for children 2-12 years old and 0.1% - for children with 12 years old). For sore throats, drugs with a local anesthetic effect are used in the form of aerosols - ingalipt, kameton, camphomen. Also in pharmacies there are many different dragees, lozenges, lozenges and lozenges that help relieve sore throat.

But paracetamol for a cold without fever is obviously not worth taking. Because pharmacological action This drug is an analgesic and antipyretic, and is used for: pain of mild to moderate intensity (headache and toothache, migraine, back pain, arthralgia, myalgia, neuralgia), febrile syndrome (that is, elevated temperature) with colds.

Contraindications to the use of paracetamol include hypersensitivity, impaired renal and liver function, alcoholism, childhood up to 6 years old. And on the list side effects blood diseases such as agranulocytosis, thrombocytopenia and anemia; renal colic, aseptic pyuria (pus in the urine when it is sterile), glomerulonephritis (inflammation of the kidneys with circulatory disorders in them), as well as allergic rashes on the skin.

On pharmaceutical market Paracetamol was first released in the early 50s of the last century in the USA. Its manufacturer (Sterling-Winthrop company) attracted buyers with the statement that paracetamol is safer than aspirin... According to official medical statistics, in the USA the use of paracetamol (Panadol) is the most common cause liver damage - more than 55 thousand cases annually.

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ARVI without fever

Acute respiratory viral infections (ARVI) are a set of acute human infectious diseases that are transmitted primarily by air - by drip and mainly affects the respiratory system. ARVI includes influenza, parainfluenza, adenoviral infections, respiratory syncytial, rhinovirus and coronavirus infections, and Coxsackievirus disease.

High fever as one of the first symptoms of the disease is most characteristic of influenza. Other acute respiratory viral infections can occur without a significant increase in body temperature. There are 3 main causes of ARVI without fever:

  • some viral diseases (for example, rhino viral infection);
  • mild course of the disease;
  • decreased immunity in weakened patients.

Rhinovirus infection

This ARVI is characterized by predominant damage to the mucous membrane of the nasopharynx. It often develops in spring and autumn, mainly in the form of outbreaks in groups. The incubation period lasts from 1 to 6 days, during which time there are no manifestations of the disease. Then there is a runny nose, sneezing, and nasal congestion. There may be slight weakness and malaise. Copious mucous discharge from the nose quickly appears. Sometimes the patient is bothered by a cough without sputum production. Body temperature is often within normal limits, less often it reaches 37.5˚C.

Upon examination, it is clear that the nasal mucosa is swollen and red. Redness of the sclera and conjunctiva of the eye may be detected. If there is excessive nasal discharge, the skin near the nasal openings may become red and flaky. The disease usually lasts up to 7 days.

Mild course of ARVI

Mild and erased forms of ARVI most often develop in previously vaccinated patients. This applies to the greatest extent, of course, to the flu. After getting a flu shot, immunity to the seasonal type of virus develops. If a vaccinated person does get sick, the infection occurs in a mild or erased form. A runny nose, a slight cough, redness of the throat develops, there may be redness of the sclera, and symptoms of conjunctivitis. Signs of intoxication (feeling tired, headache, fever) are absent or very mild.

Decreased immunity

Contrary to popular belief, decreased immunity as a reason for the absence of a temperature reaction during ARVI is a rare case. Such a significant weakening immune reactions may occur in elderly, debilitated patients with severe concomitant diseases. ARVI in such patients can manifest itself mainly as severe weakness, lack of appetite, and inactivity. Catarrhal phenomena in the nasopharynx (runny nose, cough, redness) are not so pronounced. With this course of the disease, there is a high risk of complications, such as the addition of a bacterial infection (for example, pneumonia), worsening of the course concomitant diseases(For example, diabetes mellitus). Therefore, ARVI disease in this category of patients requires special attention and timely treatment.

Treatment of ARVI without fever

Treatment is carried out on an outpatient basis. A low-fat diet is prescribed rich in vitamins. Drinking plenty of acidified drinks – fruit drinks, compotes – is beneficial. A variety of remedies for the common cold are widely used. Shown thermal procedures, inhalations with decoctions of chamomile, coltsfoot. For coughs, expectorants and mucolytics are prescribed. Interferon preparations are widely used in the treatment of ARVI. Antipyretic drugs are not used at body temperatures below 38.5˚C.

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Can there be ARVI without symptoms? except temperature

Answers:

advisor mr

An elevated body temperature indicates the presence of inflammatory process in the body and may not be associated with ARVI at all!

watering can

This is how the flu starts. and all symptoms appear on the 3-4th day. but doctors, of course, know better.

Evangelina

ARVI begins with a sharply rising temperature, without any special manifestations. The nose and throat will show themselves later.
ORI - with catarrhal manifestations, nasal congestion. subsequently snot. Then the temperature begins to rise.

...

if there is a temperature, it means the body is resisting infection, the main thing is to monitor it, it’s worse than ours: cough, snot without fever

Masha Zhuk

yes maybe - I had ATK myself in my youth
at first the temperature is about 38 without cough, runny nose, red throat
five days later all the signs of a cold began

Mari S.V.

everything can happen.
take minimal tests: general urine and blood tests.
Afterwards it will be possible to draw conclusions.

Orvi without cough and runny nose

The symptoms of a cold are familiar to everyone: high fever, runny nose, cough, sore throat, aching joints. The most common cause of illness is a viral infection. It is very important to correctly determine treatment tactics when the disease is atypical. For example, ARVI without a runny nose can mask pneumonia or sore throat, and a prolonged dry cough with a low fever can mask tuberculosis. It is worth understanding what is typical for major viral infections in order to navigate possible complications in time.

What viruses most often cause cold symptoms?

The main infections that affect the upper respiratory tract are influenza, parainfluenza, rhinovirus infection, adenovirus infection, respiratory syncytial infection. They have some features that make it possible to distinguish ARVI from a bacterial infection and resolve the issue of the need for antibiotics.

It has a short incubation period, from several hours to several days. Then the body temperature rises sharply to 38.5–40 degrees, intoxication, headache, aches in muscles and joints, and redness of the eyes are expressed. The peculiarity of the flu is that there may not be a runny nose. Sore throat, dry cough, high fever and headache - these are more frequent symptoms illness. It is dangerous due to its complications associated with the fact that vascular permeability increases and bleeding is possible. The influenza virus is very virulent and contagious and often causes epidemics.

This virus affects the larynx and trachea and often develops against a background of low-grade fever. I am concerned about hoarseness of voice, dry, hacking cough. Symptoms of rhinitis may be absent; sore throat and sore throat worsen with coughing. Parainfluenza is dangerous for children preschool age– the fact that the development of “false croup” is possible, when the swollen and inflamed mucous membrane of the larynx blocks the airways. Inspiratory dyspnea develops and such a child requires emergency hospitalization.

Respiratory syncytial virus

This infection affects the lower respiratory tract; patients are bothered by a dry, paroxysmal cough that can last up to 3 weeks. Symptoms of intoxication are moderate, but this virus is dangerous due to the possibility of developing severe pneumonia. There may be no runny nose; a sore throat is rare.

Adenovirus infection

A characteristic feature of the adenovirus is its affinity for the mucous membrane of the conjunctiva, nasal mucosa and pharynx. The disease is acute, with high temperature, intoxication. Such patients are worried about a runny nose, nasal congestion, sore throat, and dry cough. There is a wave-like course of infection, periods of improvement alternate with deterioration of the condition. Lymph nodes often enlarge, and purulent complications develop in the form of otitis, sinusitis and bronchitis.

Rhinovirus infection

It is this infection that gives classic painting“cold runny nose” with nasal congestion and a large amount of clear discharge, which then thickens. The nasal passages are completely cleared within 7-10 days.

How to distinguish ARVI from a bacterial infection?

Characteristic signs of a bacterial infection:

  • The presence of a second wave of temperature increase after clinical improvement.
  • Purulent (yellow-green) nasal discharge, purulent sputum.
  • Symptoms of otitis or sinusitis, that is, pain in the ear, in the area of ​​the wings of the nose, in the forehead against a background of low-grade fever.
  • Symptoms of bronchitis or pneumonia, severe shortness of breath and pain in the chest, prolonged cough.

Thus, ARVI can occur without a runny nose, especially influenza, parainfluenza and respiratory syncytial infection. However, viral infections often accompany bacterial complications, therefore, in order to identify them in time and prescribe antibiotic therapy, every patient with ARVI should be under the supervision of a doctor.

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Orvi without cough and runny nose

The signs by which anyone can recognize a cold are known to everyone. These include fever, runny nose, severe cough, sore throat, and aches in the joints. As a rule, the cause of such a disease is a viral infection.

But there are cases when, during illness, the patient has a fever without signs of cough or runny nose.

Thus, a seemingly ordinary acute respiratory viral infection can hide influenza, sore throat, and pneumonia. If the cough is dry and the patient has a low fever, doctors can diagnose tuberculosis.

In order to promptly and correctly recognize a viral infection, it is necessary to understand the characteristic symptoms of certain dangerous diseases. This will not only allow you to start in a timely manner necessary treatment, but also prevent the development of complications.

How does ARVI manifest?

This disease is often called a cold. It develops gradually, the patient’s body temperature rises, but does not exceed 38 degrees.

When these symptoms appear, doctors recommend drinking plenty of tea, cranberry and lingonberry fruit drinks, herbal infusions, rosehip decoction, berry and fruit compote. At the same time, the throat is rinsed with decoctions of chamomile, elecampane, and calendula. Only if necessary, the elevated temperature is reduced with paracetamol or other antipyretic drugs. Severe cough treated with special mixtures.

It is important to understand that antibiotics should not be taken for viral diseases, as they are not effective in treating this type of disease.

But if the flu is accompanied by a bacterial infection, similar drugs are usually prescribed.

What virus can masquerade as ARVI?

The main infections affecting the upper respiratory tract include:

  • Flu;
  • Parainfluenza;
  • Rhinovirus infection;
  • Adenoviral infection;
  • Respiratory syncytial infection.

Each of these diseases may have certain characteristics that distinguish the standard form of ARVI from bacterial infections.

Having identified these signs, the doctor, as a rule, not only selects a special treatment, but also prescribes antibiotics.

Flu and its features

A disease such as influenza can develop quite quickly, from several hours to several days. The main sign of the disease is a sharp increase in temperature to 38.5-40 degrees. By the way, we recommend that you read the information on how to determine body temperature without a thermometer.

  1. The patient may have severe intoxication, severe headache, while the eyes turn red, and aches and pains are felt in the muscles and joints.
  2. Gradually, the patient begins to have a sore throat, a dry cough appears, the temperature does not subside, and the head continues to hurt badly.
  3. But with a disease like the flu, most often there is no runny nose.

Unlike light form ARVI, influenza is dangerous because it often causes quite severe complications in the form of increased vascular permeability and possible bleeding. This is very pathogenic disease, which is transmitted by contact and through objects, which is why it often causes an epidemic.

Parainfluenza and its features

This type The virus usually spreads to the larynx and trachea. But if the usual form of ARVI is accompanied by a strong increase in temperature, then with this disease it is detected slight fever, which lasts for a long time.

  1. The patient's voice becomes hoarse, and there is a dry and hacking cough.
  2. During a cough, sore throat and nasopharyngeal soreness may intensify.
  3. There are usually no signs of rhinitis.

This disease is especially dangerous for young children. When sick, they may develop “false croup” in the form of swollen or inflamed mucous membrane of the larynx, which blocks the airways.

In this case, the child experiences inspiratory shortness of breath, which can only be eliminated by a doctor, so the baby should be urgently hospitalized.

Respiratory syncytial virus and its features

This type of infection spreads to the lower respiratory tract area. The patient has a dry paroxysmal cough, which usually lasts for several weeks.

When the disease occurs, the intoxication of the body is moderate, but this type of virus can be dangerous because it often causes the development of a severe form of pneumonia. The patient often does not have a runny nose, and there is usually no pain from the larynx.

Adenoviral infection and its features

Adenovirus is characterized by the fact that it enters the body through the mucous membranes of the conjunctiva, the mucous membrane of the nose and pharynx. This type of disease occurs in an acute form, with the patient experiencing elevated temperature and intoxication.

  1. Patients usually have a runny nose, dry cough, stuffy nose, and a sore throat.
  2. The infection occurs in waves, that is, improvement alternates with sharp deterioration the patient's condition.
  3. The patient's lymph nodes are usually enlarged and purulent complication in the form of otitis, sinusitis or bronchitis.

A disease such as rhinovirus infection is accompanied by the classic “ cold runny nose" The patient has a stuffy nose, and there is large number discharge that gradually thickens.

The nasal passages can be completely cleared 7-10 days after the onset of the disease.

Difference between ARVI and bacterial infections

Characteristic signs of bacterial infections include the following factors:

  • After the patient’s general condition has improved, a second wave of sharp increase in body temperature is observed.
  • There is discharge from the nose purulent in nature yellow-green color, purulent sputum may also appear.
  • The patient may show signs of otitis or sinusitis. In this case, the patient feels pain in the ear, forehead and nose against the background of a slight elevated temperature, which lasts for a long time.
  • The patient may experience chest pain, shortness of breath, and a prolonged cough. These symptoms may be a manifestation of bronchitis or pneumonia.

Thus, many forms of ARVI may differ in that the patient does not have a runny nose. In particular, such diseases include influenza, respiratory syncytial infection, parainfluenza

But quite often a viral infection can be with bacterial complications. For this reason, any form of acute respiratory viral infection should be treated under the supervision of a doctor, so that it is possible to identify a bacterial infection in time and take the necessary measures.

The useful video in this article will help you identify the first symptoms and signs of ARVI and begin timely treatment.

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I myself don’t have snot with every flu. And a cough, in general, is a rare visitor. I start taking Influcid at the first symptoms (fever, throat, etc.) - there are no options. Only with him can I be sure of a quick and problem-free recovery. But further on the situation: inhalation, rinsing, washing. It depends on the symptoms.

Orvi without cough and runny nose

SYMPTOMS, DIAGNOSIS and TREATMENT METHODS

A cold or flu most often develops with the same signs and symptoms. In the initial stages, chills appear, the temperature rises, and mucus begins to discharge from the nose. A few days later, acute respiratory infections and acute respiratory viral infections cause fever, headache, sore throat, sore throat and wet cough.

Today, medicine identifies about 100 types of colds and viral diseases, one of which is atypical flu.

Unusual symptoms

Atypical influenza is one of the types of viral diseases, characterized by the fact that it does not have the symptoms for which the standard diagnosis is made. clinical form development of the disease.

Atypical influenza

Considering the usual stages of development of influenza infection in the body, the patient experiences fever, chills, headache, cough and runny nose. With an atypical manifestation, such signs are absent completely or partially. The disease can develop without a cough or runny nose, without obvious manifestations of fever.

Atypical influenza is a serious disease that entails a number of unpredictable consequences and complications, since, due to the absence of standard symptoms, it is very difficult to diagnose and treat.

High temperature

According to statistics, in 75% of a hundred the sick person experiences an increase in temperature to 38-38.5°C and, in rare cases, a headache. At this stage, a person does not feel the slightest sign of a cold, and therefore do not rush to take measures and contact specialists. It is possible to determine that a patient really is a carrier of the influenza virus only by taking tests that will detect anti-influenza antibodies in the blood.

No signs

Doctors call such cases of colds and flu asymptomatic. During the examination, if the virus is nevertheless identified, a specialist will appoint complex treatment, which provides medications aimed at fighting the infection, but not at eliminating symptoms such as runny nose and cough. Even if the flu occurs without certain characteristic signs, this does not mean that the disease is harmless and does not need to be treated. Very often, this particular form of the disease can cause unpredictable consequences.

Types of disease

Atypical influenza has several subtypes: acatarrhal and afebrile. The first develops without cough and runny nose, the second - without fever and fever. In this case, both types of the disease can occur, like regular flu, in severe or mild form.

Fulminant

The most severe and unpleasant atypical manifestation of the disease is fulminant flu. This disease develops very quickly and is typical sharp increase fever, vomiting, weakness, convulsions without cough and runny nose. If so clinical picture remains unattended, the patient loses consciousness, and irreversible processes occur in the cardiovascular and nervous systems. Measures not taken in time claim lives within 1-2 days. This pathology is extremely rare, but one cannot ignore the symptoms of this form of the disease. Atypical fulminant flu without cough and runny nose is detected during large-scale epidemics during the off-season or during the cold season.

If there is no cough or runny nose, there is no sore throat pain syndrome and there is no burning sensation and soreness, but the temperature “creeped” up, aching in the muscles and bones began, then this can serve as a sign of the beginning of an acute respiratory viral infection. Colds, complications of sinusitis and sinusitis, and the initial stages of pneumonia also have similar symptoms.

Asymptomatic

Flu without symptoms is an insidious disease. The virus itself, forcing the immune forces to fight it with all its might, weakens the human body so much that it can no longer resist subsequent infections and viruses. Intoxication of the body begins, the patient’s temperature rises greatly, and manifests itself as photophobia. In some cases, even if measures are taken to suppress the inflammatory and infectious process, a dry cough appears on the second or third day. This symptom indicates that the infection has descended and is spreading throughout the organs. respiratory system. This course of the disease can provoke acute bronchitis or pneumonia.

Acatharral form

The atypical acatarrhal form of the disease often has another name - acute tracheitis. It happens that such a diagnosis indicates that infection and bacteria have affected the mucous membranes of the nasopharynx and trachea and next step development there will be intoxication of the body. In these cases, when the disease is detected, doctors prescribe a course of antibiotics.

In addition, intoxication manifests itself skin rashes in the forearms, abdomen, arms and legs, coating on the tongue.

Prevention

SARS, like any other viral disease, is not easy to cure, but it can be prevented. Row preventive measures will help you avoid infection:

  1. During epidemics, try not to be in crowded places or wear a mask or gauze bandage. This is especially true for young children.
  2. If you or your loved ones are prone to colds and viral diseases, make sure to keep your houses and apartments clean. In the off-season, be sure to ventilate the room, humidify the air by any means, and disinfect rooms and bathrooms.
  3. If you feel unwell, if possible, try to rest without leaving home and without contact with loved ones.
  4. As temperatures rise, remember that you will need to drink plenty of fluids to avoid dehydration. It's better if it is herbal tea or tea with lemon.
  5. At temperatures up to 38°C, you should not take antipyretic drugs. The body is able to overcome a viral infection naturally. The use of medications will only weaken the synthesis of antiviral substances in the body.

And be sure to monitor your health throughout the year. In spring and summer, try to consume as many vitamins as possible by eating fresh vegetables and fruits; in the cold season, provide a supply essential microelements by applying vitamin complexes. And, most importantly, be sure to consult with specialists!

I rarely buy drops, but when I have the flu it happens nasal congestion and then after a few days there is discharge. I like tizin from the drops, but I also rinse my nose with salt water. And from the tablets I take reaferon lipint for the flu as an antiviral medicine.

Just like normal right away. If you're expecting a runny nose or throat, you'll get it. And it’s not a fact that only them. I start taking Influcid at the first symptom. And it doesn’t matter whether it’s fever or snot - the main thing is not to miss the moment. Then you will recover much faster and with a minimum of problems.

When I had the flu, I suffered from a dry cough. According to the doctor's prescription, I drank 4 different syrups, none of them helped, they only gave a short-term effect. When it was already boiling, I turned to a homeopath, who recommended herbal teas plus Influcid. Indeed, after a week my persistent cough went away.

07.04.2011, 14:51

Good afternoon

The situation is as follows:

Child, 4 years old.

On Friday I came home from the garden a little “on edge” and was capricious. I chalked it up to fatigue.

We went for a walk on Saturday morning and felt fine. By evening the temperature rose to 37.2. He complained that his head hurt. I decided that ARVI was starting. I tried to give her more to drink and didn’t force her to eat.

Sunday. In the morning he was active, played, ate poorly, and refused to drink at all. In the afternoon, I began to periodically lie down and took my temperature - 38.3. She didn't give me any medications. I went to bed early.

Monday. Until lunch I lay there, didn’t eat, hardly drank. From time to time he dozed off. I didn’t take the temperature, but it felt like it was no higher than 37. After nap got up very cheerful. I ate well. Played actively. T-ra 36.6. He complained that his neck hurt (in the back). She noticed that she could not turn her head, she turned in the right direction with her whole body, and picked up the toy from the floor not by bending over, but by crouching. The lymph nodes under the jaw are swollen (even visually), the throat is red, on the tongue and tonsils white coating. I made her gargle (with warm water and soda), and the plaque became a little less.

Tuesday. The runny nose and cough never appeared. But a rash appeared: roughness on the forearms and shins, and a larger and brighter one on the stomach, inside hips and lower back. The temperature is normal. He ate and drank reluctantly. Again he complained of neck pain. From time to time he suddenly began to whine: “my tongue hurts/itches a lot”
The pediatrician came. She listened and looked. She said that “ARVI, the throat is viral, and the rash is an allergy to the syrup from the temperature.” I noticed that I did not give my child any syrups for fever and did not introduce any new products. “Then it’s from general intoxication of the body.” The coating on the tongue is due to the same thing.
Appointed:
Nurofen ointment - externally, on the neck (just don’t rub it! You can’t rub it on children!), wrap a scarf on top.
Bioparox - in the throat
Grippferon (tradition, probably)
Antigrippin for children - for fever (the temperature did not rise anymore)
Suprastin - 1 tablet at night for three days - for allergic manifestations.

None of this was accepted.

Wednesday. We were walking. The child is active. He ate poorly (he refused everything except bread), and didn’t want to drink (I had to blackmail him to force him). They gargled every hour. Grandmother insisted that we use eucalyptus decoction for rinsing. I didn’t argue, in my opinion, it didn’t matter what, as long as I rinsed it. The plaque disappeared. The head still doesn't turn.

Thursday (today). The throat is red. He opens his mouth wide for inspection (apparently it doesn’t hurt him to do this), there is no plaque (we continue to rinse). He only eats bread. The rest is soup, I grind porridge in a blender, and he also eats it with pleasure (I would imagine that it hurts to chew, but he chews bread). Can't turn his head. The lymph nodes feel just as swollen to the touch. Especially on the left side (in the same direction and the head is always slightly tilted). The rash is gone, but the skin is a little rough. No cough, no runny nose. The temperature is normal. According to the child himself, his throat does not hurt, it does not hurt to swallow, his neck (back) and tongue hurt.

Questions for respected doctors:

1. Does ARVI happen without a runny nose or cough? If not, should we contact another doctor (paid) to clarify the diagnosis?

2. Today we are going to take a mouth swab for culture. Does it make sense?

3. Should I take my child to the dentist to rule out stomatitis? (cheeks and gums are clean. Apart from plaque on the tongue and tonsils and the absence of a runny nose, there seems to be no suspicion of stomatitis)

4. Nurofen ointment. Is it necessary? Naturally, we had no intention of taking any other medications. But this is the first time I’ve heard about the ointment. Is it effective?

5. I am writing this post under pressure from the “family community.” Is it time to start fussing, take all sorts of tests and start treating the child with “normal medications” or can I still remain an unscrupulous mother, doing nothing except drinking and rinsing for the child’s recovery? Dear doctors, please tell me the right direction further actions.

6. There is more youngest child(2.5 years). As a rule, they get sick together with their brother. The youngest does not have any such symptoms. These few days he has been hanging around his brother, attempts to isolate the patient are unsuccessful (don’t lock him in a room), he didn’t keep track - he even drank from his mug. So, as I understand it, the disease is not contagious?

Thank you!

07.04.2011, 20:57

Not only swollen submandibular lymph nodes, but also on the neck, behind the ears. The tongue is also somewhat abnormal: tiny bubbles have appeared.
... Hmmm... Looks like it's really not ARVI.......(

08.04.2011, 14:02

Get a blood test and a throat swab. If the rash remains, take a photo and show it.

08.04.2011, 21:19

There is almost no rash. There is a little left under the knees (in the sense, at the back, in the folds) and on the tailbone. I’ll figure out how to post the picture now and show you.
They took a smear. We are waiting for the results.
Today I barely escaped the hospital with antibiotics... They sent me with suspicion of infectious mononucleosis. Thank you, RMS for the educational program! We will not treat viruses with antibiotics)
We went to see a dentist (not a pediatric dentist, really, but we saw one) and she said that it didn’t look like stomatitis.

Blood was donated.
Results:

WBC: 9.9 H 10^9/l
RBC: 4.28 10^12/l
HGB: 110 L g/l
HCT: .338 L l/l
PLT: 349 10^9/l
PCT: .256 10^-2 l/l

MCV: 79 L fl
MCH: 25.7 L pg
MCHC: 326 g/l
RDW: 13.6%
MPV: 7.3 fl
PDW: 13.5%

Hand signed below:
eosis - 7
fell - 3
segm - 57
Lim - 24
mon - 9
ESR - 24
They also said that no mononuclear cells were found in the smear.

In the process of an unconstructive dialogue with a doctor in a hospital, I found out new “horrifying” details:
- the child has herpetic rashes on the face (I thought it was a normal irritation from frequent licking and biting of lips, it appeared three days ago)
- terrible lymphadenitis (the lymph nodes, in my opinion, have become even larger, although... maybe fear has big eyes...)
- temperature 36.6 - this is because the immune system is so weak that it does not respond to inflammation (weak immunity is definitely not about us!)
- and I, mommy, with such a terrible throat, refuse hospitalization!
- my child is VERY SICK!
- everything inside the child is loose (apparently, they meant the liver and spleen), according to statistics, complications are inevitable, so it is urgent to start taking antibiotics even before examinations and tests are carried out (palpation internal organs none of the doctors examining us did

In a word, they intimidated me, but nothing has been clarified about the case... There is still no diagnosis.

The child is tired (clinic, hospital, laboratory, dentistry), slept 4 hours during the day instead of the usual 2. Appetite - not very good. The head will not turn, slightly tilted to the left. My tongue hurts, but I don’t understand HOW it hurts: it doesn’t sting (he eats sour foods, garlic, tomatoes), chewing doesn’t cause discomfort either (gnaws apples, crackers, bagels). He talks a lot, but “with strain,” as if it hurts him to move his tongue and as if his nasopharynx is blocked. No runny nose. No cough. The throat is red, the tonsils are swollen, without plaque. The temperature is normal. The lymph nodes under the jaw and behind the ears are enlarged and hardened. We still don’t take any medications.

Questions:
1) is it necessary to undergo tests to exclude or confirm lymphotropic viral infections?
2) should I contact a surgeon? (at the hospital they said something about such a need)

The first photo shows irritation on the face (about an hour before the photo I smeared it with baby cream with zinc, it became a little better, otherwise it was just a red disgrace)
The second is the remains of a rash under the knee. It looked like it was being combed (maybe he was scratching it on the sly, I didn’t see it).

10.04.2011, 14:45

Yesterday we visited a paid pediatrician. She conducted a more thorough examination. I felt the liver and spleen (not enlarged), the lymph nodes (only the behind-the-ear and submandibular ones were enlarged). I listened: “breathing on the left side is a little harsh”
She said that it doesn’t look like mononucleosis, especially since there are no mononuclear cells in the blood (I read that they may not be visible in the blood up to 10 days from the onset of the disease).
I recommended not to donate blood for viruses yet, because... "They will definitely find something and prescribe a bunch of unnecessary drugs!!! Do you need it?" She advised me to take a urine sample and repeat the UAC after a while (“to see the dynamics”). She praised me for not taking anything prescribed and refusing antibiotics.
Seems reasonable...
She explained lymphadenitis as follows: the body has not fully recovered from the last ARVI (three weeks ago. “Planned”))) according to the usual pattern - fever for a couple of days, then snot, then coughing for a week. We were treated as always with compote, ventilation and saline solution in the nose, then a week of “home rehabilitation”, because... in the apartment +18, humidifier and 4 people, and in the garden - +28, closed windows, carpets, no walks and 30 people in the same room area), the child did not properly get rid of toxins, lymphatic system could not cope with the new infection, so the banal ARVI took on an unusual form, the body reacted in a way that was not typical for it.
Maybe not entirely scientific, but in my opinion, it’s also quite logical. The explanation satisfied me from a layman's point of view.
Of the appointments - only homeopathic medicines. I knew what I was getting into, but a passion for homeopathy doesn’t match the merits of a competent diagnostician with extensive experience in pediatrics? She thanked me politely and agreed, but we won’t accept it.

The child's condition: the throat is still red, huge tonsils. Can breathe through the nose, but the mouth is often open. When he sleeps, he breathes through his mouth (he snores at the same time). The head does not turn, but it seems to me that the swelling under the jaw has become much less. He is active, but gets tired quickly and is capricious. Appetite is normal. He still complains that his tongue hurts. He speaks through his nose.

The results of the throat swab will be ready sometime on Tuesday.

Tomorrow (Monday) we will have to explain to the local pediatrician why we did not go to the hospital. On Friday I couldn’t warn her because... She doesn’t give out her mobile number, but after the appointment she left the clinic to make calls, and when I called, I didn’t find her.
Ethical contradictions are torn apart: should I tell her that we visited a homeopath? After all, with this I will reproach her for incompetence (she is already wary of us because of my constant refusals of all kinds of ultrasounds, coprograms, nebulizers and viferons), I would not want to spoil the relationship - there is only one clinic in the city, out of 4 people working in it pediatricians, ours seems to me the most sane.

Dear doctors! Sorry for distracting you from your work with my nonsense. I continue this topic for two reasons:
1) During the week, the condition of the pharynx did not change. The child continues to complain about tongue pain. He plays calmly, watches a cartoon, and suddenly suddenly begins to whine and moan: “my tongue hurts a lot.” The child is lethargic, during the day he lies down and even sometimes falls asleep for 10-15 minutes (this scares me, this has not happened even when the child was 38.5). The lymph nodes are still swollen and hardened (I read about lymphadenitis that it usually goes away on its own, but this is a long process, so I’m not too worried), snoring during sleep.
2) Maybe my topic will be of interest to other RMS users. I myself, when I read other people’s topics, I get upset if the parents don’t unsubscribe how the story ends.

Questions that still concern:
1) should I contact a surgeon in connection with lymphadenitis?
2) should we clarify the diagnosis until the bitter end? On the one hand, the condition does not seem to be worsening, but on the other, there is no significant improvement either (in particular, the throat). If this is really ARVI, then it’s atypical for us...
3) Isn’t it time for me to drink valerian, leave the child alone and not drag him to doctors (especially since these trips do not contribute to recovery in any way)?

In any case, thanks to the site and all the RMS doctors! Very useful resource. If you have any doubts about prescriptions and diagnoses, come here immediately. I almost always find answers here (adequate answers!) to my questions about health. I regard the lack of comments on my posts as “Mommy, stop doing nonsense, go for a walk with the children”... But I’m still worried...
Once again - thank you!

10.04.2011, 14:50

The rash has practically disappeared. What the doctor at the hospital called "herpetic rashes" under lower lip- Same. I smeared them with the usual baby cream with a cat and a dog, and made comments to the child not to lick his lips, especially on the street))

11.04.2011, 02:09

There was banal streptoderma on the face.
You are not required to explain anything to the district police officer about third-party consultations.

11.04.2011, 09:52

I read about streptoderma. It seems like there swollen lymph nodes are present... Only in theory, with streptoderma, first there is a rash, and then a temperature, but with us it’s the other way around. And there is no depigmentation left. And it almost went away baby cream. Olga Vladimirovna, does this happen?

And at the clinic - again 25! "Mononuclear cells may not be visible in the blood! Urgently! Urgently donate blood for EBV! What if you really have mononucleosis! You need to take antibiotics!" I objected that this is a viral infection, what do antibiotics have to do with it? “But this gives complications! Your lymph nodes are still compacted!”
Maybe I understand something wrong due to the lack of honey. education, but in my opinion the definition of “lymphadenitis” is not a complication, but a location of infection... Or is it the same thing?
In the laboratory where we took the OAC, the doctor was indignant when she heard about the threat of prescribing us antibiotics for suspected mononucleosis, and said that the antibiotic was not only not indicated, but even CONTRAINDICATE! I tried to argue with the pediatrician - it was useless: “In addition to antibiotics, you also need to take polyoxidonium.”
I came home, googled, googled:
“Polyoxidonium is the only true immunomodulator with a complex action: the drug not only restores a person’s immune status, but also binds and removes toxins, and also has an antioxidant effect.”
Wow! Serious treatment! We definitely can’t do without this drug!

When we visited the pediatrician on Friday, the child’s neck did not turn at all, today (Monday) it turns quite so much. The pediatrician asked in surprise: “Is your mother a sorceress, or what?” Yes, I am a sorceress, with the help of a magic spell "do no harm! do no harm!" I was able to force myself not to start “treating” the child...

They gave us a throat swab, it turns out, only for yeast. Is this enough? Or do you need all sorts of cocci? Yeast doesn't grow.

So what to do? Should I donate blood to this VEB so they can fall behind? And if they find something, then write a refusal of treatment (if you burn the papers with my refusals, you can heat the three-story clinic building all winter, so one more, one less will not make a difference)?

And if we don’t confirm or rule out the diagnosis, we might not be allowed to go to kindergarten after sick leave?